Grief sits in the same room as parenting, yet most conversations stay silent about how loss reshapes home life, discipline, and connection with kids. This conversation brings grief, guilt, and the daily chaos of parenting into the open and offers grounded ways to create more calm and safety at home. Practical emotional tools, not perfection, sit at the center of this discussion on healing.

Parenting coach and therapist Devora Segall shares how miscarriage, the loss of her father, and raising ten children led her to peaceful parenting and DBT-based skills. Her story shows how real families can move from constant yelling and shame to steadier, more mindful connections.

Press play to hear how our grief story can become a growth story, including:

• Parenting after miscarriage and other losses
• Using DBT skills for calmer parenting moments
• Helping kids handle big feelings and triggers
• When to share emotions with kids and when to protect them
• What “peaceful parenting” looks like in real life
• The role of self-care and vulnerabilities for stressed parents
• How coaching and therapy support parents who feel stuck

01:56 Devorah’s Journey: Miscarriage, Motherhood, and Discovering DBT

08:10 Parenting Through Loss: Validating Kids’ Feelings and Vulnerabilities

09:23 Devorah’s Books: Peaceful Parenting Solution and Trauma Aware Tools

14:15 Should Parents Hide Emotions From Kids

19:00 Hosting, Mentoring, and Devorah’s Definition of Live Love Survive Thrive

23:01 Bridging Mind and Heart: Therapy, Coaching, and Post-Traumatic Growth

30:00 Give Yourself Grace

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02:41 “I would get so overwhelmed by that need to show up in the way I wanted to for my child, at the same time, I didn’t know how to communicate with him in a way that would get him to do what he needed to do without causing a rupture in the relationship.” —Devora Segall 

07:52 “It’s very nice to say that you’re an expert, but that doesn’t mean that when you’re in the thick of things, you’ll always know what to do, but you have the basics, and you know when you need help, and you have the concepts.” —Devora Segall

09:11 “Feelings are like waves, and giving into the feeling doesn’t mean we’re always going to feel that way. Let it come, and then it will recede. If we keep fighting it, then it’s just going to come back stronger.” —Devora Segall

12:54 “We have to know where the child is, and in order to do that, we have to first know where we are. We need to make sure that we’re taken care of so that we can be there for our child. We need to validate ourselves, we need to give ourselves grace, we need to give ourselves slack.” —Devora Segall

15:38 “Oftentimes, people don’t want to express themselves in front of their kid because they’re afraid that the kid’s going to absorb everything, or the opposite.” —Dr. Kimberly Hubenette

16:25 “We want to have peace with our children. Peace doesn’t mean the absence of conflict. Peace means positive, gentle interactions.” —Devora Segall

21:39 “Survivors can become even stronger where the bone broken can often be the strongest part of us.” —Devora Segall

22:34 “You’re born, and then you die, and then your life is the journey in between.” —Dr. Kimberly Hubenette 

30:12 “Just know that you’re carrying a lot. Give yourself grace and take the time to care for yourself because you deserve it.” —Devora Segall

Devora Segall, LCSW, is a parenting coach, therapist, speaker, and author of The Peaceful Parenting Solution. She helps overwhelmed mothers of children ages 2–12 break the yelling and guilt cycle and build calm, connected relationships with their kids using practical, DBT-informed skills. As a mother of ten and a clinician with years of experience supporting families, Devora combines real-life parenting insight with evidence-based tools to help moms regulate themselves, respond with intention, and lead their families with confidence. She is the founder of Segall Coaching and creator of programs that teach parents how to protect connection while still getting their needs met.

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📖The Peaceful Parenting Solution: Your Step by Step Guide to Becoming a Better Mom https://a.co/d/03RJI8Ww 

📖Sensitive Hearts, Strong Minds: Using DBT Skills to Break the Cycle of Trauma and Raise Emotionally Healthy Children  

Dr. Kimberly Hubenette: Welcome to the  Live, Love, Survive, Thrive! Podcast that helps you embrace life’s challenges, grow through adversity, and discover your true potential. I’m your host, Dr. Kimberly Hubenette, anti-aging dentist, widow, Author and inspirational Coach. I live by the “Can I” philosophy of constant and never ending improvement, and I’m here to help you do the same. Each week, we’ll dive into real conversations, powerful stories and practical tools to help you heal, grow and thrive. Whether you’re rebuilding after loss or ready to step into a more purposeful life, this space is for you. Let’s grow, evolve and thrive together.   

Hello, listeners. This is Dr. Kimberly Hubenette of Live, Love, Survive, Thrive!. And today, I have a special guest. She has been a parenting coach, a licensed therapist for over 10 years, and she works with patients to transform their lives after a loss of a loved one or through adversity. Her name is Devora Segall, and I want her to introduce herself and say hello. Hi, Deborah.

Devora Segall: How nice to be here today. 

Dr. Kimberly Hubenette: Can you tell us a little bit more about yourself? I know that you’re an author also, and you have a history of being a teacher in the past. What happened to you catapult into this parenting coaching, therapist type of a role? 

Devora Segall: That’s a really good question. It goes back to my first experience as a mother. I remember my 4 year old. He was a good kid, but I was having a hard time. I just remember trying to get him to just do the basics, like getting dressed in the morning and having all this stress because he wouldn’t listen. This is typical, everybody deals with this, but I would get so overwhelmed by that need to show up in the way I wanted to for my child. At the same time, I didn’t know how to communicate with him in a way that would get him to do what he needed to do without causing a rupture in the relationship. My kids are so precious to me. If we want to talk about loss, before I had children, I actually had a miscarriage. I know that’s not huge in the scheme of things, but that was definitely a loss for me. You’re losing a dream and a hope.  It’s not actual, but that made all my children even more precious to me. I just wanted to be that mother that I always dreamed of being, but it was just so hard. I felt like I didn’t have the skills, I didn’t have the tools so I read the books, I took the classes. And then eventually, I went back to school, and that’s when I discovered what I’m teaching now, which is DBT-Dialectical Behavior Therapy. And now I learned this, and I realized it included all the skills that I’ve been learning until then, and it just put them all together in such a beautiful way. Now that my children are getting older and I feel like I have a handle, not always, not every day, not every situation, but I have a handle on what to do when my children do different things. I see so many mothers are struggling with the yelling, the guilt and the disconnection, and I really wanted to be there for other mothers.

Dr. Kimberly Hubenette: You touched upon something that’s interesting. You said you did have a miscarriage in the past, and that is actually some of our listeners do have a loss that way. And sometimes, they can’t move forward even if they’re with the relationships with their children and so forth, their other children. Having that situation happen to you, do you think that communication with your children, your living children, could be suffering? Did this happen before you had children, and then you had the other children? How would that look for somebody that might be grieving for the loss of a fetus type of thing?

Devora Segall: So much of it is. As you’re saying, so much of it is about context. When I had that first miscarriage and I didn’t have children yet, there was this fear that maybe I would never have a healthy child. So that was much more painful than later on that I had a miscarriage. Yes, I was a little sad. I had my hard days. I had some hard weeks, but it wasn’t the same level of distress, or trauma. The whole situation there was traumatic. I don’t need to go into the details, but I was a young, 20 something year old woman, and it was traumatic. Definitely was traumatic. Is it affecting my communication with my children? If anything, it makes me hold them tighter and feel more protective of them.

Dr. Kimberly Hubenette: That’s really interesting. Because some people can’t get over the first one, and then they don’t want to try again. Did it take you a while to try again?

Devora Segall: Well, actually, the doctor didn’t want me to try again so fast. I felt like each child is so precious, so why wouldn’t I want to try again? I guess that was my perspective. It’s like, yeah, I didn’t merit to raise this child, but I was hoping to have many more that I could raise.

Dr. Kimberly Hubenette: Yeah. And who knows, maybe God had it in his heart that maybe that child wasn’t going to be whole or something. Maybe it was a blessing, really, that that happened. But how many beautiful children do you have now? 

Devora Segall: 10? 

Dr. Kimberly Hubenette:  Wow, that’s a lot. That’s amazing. So you must be living it, and doing it, and teaching on it, right?

Devora Segall: I can’t tell you, as they get older, they get even more precious. You think you love that tiny baby because they can do no wrong, but I have a son who’s turning 35. And trust me, that love for him as a baby, it only multiplied. 

Dr. Kimberly Hubenette: So you said that you were a teacher prior. And then now, you’ve graduated to being a licensed therapist and a parenting coach. Can you walk us through the basic reasons about your why of doing this? I know you said there’s different ways of talking to your child in a more communicative way, and people get frustrated and so forth. But you’ve had 10, so you’re really an expert.

Devora Segall: It’s very nice to say that you’re an expert. But that doesn’t mean that when you’re in the thick of things, you’ll always know what to do. But you have the basics. You know when you need help and you have the concepts, that doesn’t mean your kids won’t throw things at you.

Dr. Kimberly Hubenette: Do you work with people that have lost loved ones also, and that they’re working with their kids now? Maybe the kids have lost a sibling, or the kids lost a parent, is there a way to approach somebody that is in depression from losing something special to them?

Devora Segall: Yeah. And the first thing is that their feelings make sense. Feelings aren’t wrong or bad. And also, grief is a cycle you never know when it’s going to hit you. I lost my father, and I remember getting hysterical. Somebody said something that just brought it up in me, and I was crying there in the office at work. And somebody said, what’s going on? The other person said, there were a bunch of therapists there. They said, oh, she must have had a loss recently. It was more than a year later. But sometimes, things hit you, and that’s totally normal. I talk about it in my book on how feelings are like waves, and giving into the feeling doesn’t mean we’re always going to feel that way. Kind of have to let it come and then it will recede. If we keep fighting it, then it’s just going to come back stronger.

Dr. Kimberly Hubenette: And what was the name of your book?

Devora Segall: I actually have two books. The most recent book is called The Peaceful Parenting Solution. They’re available on Amazon, or got them on my website as well. It’s called The Peaceful Parenting Solution. That’s one> And the other one is called Sensitive Hearts, Strong Minds. Now, there’s a little bit more of a trauma focus in this first book, but it’s basically the same ideas only expanded upon in the second book. 

Dr. Kimberly Hubenette: Can you explain a little bit? Which one do you think our listeners would be more attuned to? Or both of them?

Devora Segall: I would say the first one is shorter, more of an intro. The second one really is step by step. We call it Your Step by Step Guide to Becoming a Better Mom. It’s more step by step. The first one gives sort of an overview, and it gives some tips of what to do. But I feel like the second one is a little more comprehensive. I actually did an audio version of the second book because other parents were asking me for that.

Dr. Kimberly Hubenette: So you read it, you read your book on Amazon.

Devora Segall: That, you can’t get on Amazon yet. You would actually have to go to my website, and I could post a link under this podcast.

Dr. Kimberly Hubenette: Nice, nice. So you’re Segall Coaching, is that right?

Devora Segall: Yeah. Segall with two L’s. Apparently, somebody else has Segall with 1 L. So S-E-G-A-L-L-C-O-A-C-H-I-N-G .com.

Dr. Kimberly Hubenette: I’m interested in you. I don’t have kids, per se, but I have a lot of nieces and nephews. Would you say that it’s harder or easier to speak to somebody that’s not your kid? Is there a real difference in the relationship between an aunt or uncle to their niece and nephew versus somebody that is your kid? Do people communicate the same or not?

Devora Segall: It’s really about the role. If you’re an aunt or an uncle and you’re raising the child, then you’re going to end up having the same challenges as a mother. Will have the same thing with a teacher, right? What’s our role? If a teacher would be raising the child, she might have the same struggles as the parent. Even though she knows all the right things to do when she went to school, she learned about child development, right? But when it comes to raising children, even if they’re not ours, it’s a whole different dynamic.

Dr. Kimberly Hubenette: What would you say to somebody that was dealing with loss and they’re the kid who is acting out because of the loss? Is there any special thing that would be different than just talking to them differently?

Devora Segall: You’re asking a really, really good question. And again, I do address this in my book. There’s something called vulnerabilities. When a child is having a loss, it is a vulnerability. I don’t speak specifically to the idea of loss as a vulnerability, but I do talk about vulnerabilities that we have to keep in mind. What’s going on for the child at the moment that we’re trying to discipline him or trying to get him to just put his clothes on? We have to know where the child is. And in order to do that, we have to first know where we are. So it starts with mindfulness. Start with noticing what’s going on for us. If we’re having a rough day because we’ve had a loss, we need to take really, really good care of ourselves. We need to make sure we’ve eaten properly, make sure we had that good cry to our friend, our therapist. We need to make sure that we’re taken care of so that we can be there for our child. And we need to validate ourselves that this is hard. We’re going uphill. We’re treading uphill so we need to give ourselves grace. We need to give ourselves slack. The first step is really, really taking care of ourselves. And the second step is thinking about what’s going on for the child. And depending on the age, even asking them, what’s up? You feel sad about whatever happened, right? That’s okay. We connect before we try to redirect. I didn’t make up that line, I think in Dan Siegel’s book, The Whole-Brain Child. I think he uses that line, but that’s so true. We need to connect to the child before we can redirect them to what we’d rather be doing at that moment. Does that answer your question?

Dr. Kimberly Hubenette: Yeah. So sometimes, parents like to hide their feelings in front of the kid or the child. Is that really not very healthy? Is there some times where you should hide your feelings versus not hide your feelings?

Devora Segall: That’s a really good question. We don’t want to burden our child with our own strong feelings. That’s one side of it. In DBT, we talk about a dialectic. The idea that two opposite things could be true at the same time. On the one hand, we don’t want to burden our child. On the other hand, if they could see that we’re having strong feelings, it’s really important to communicate with the child that this feeling has nothing to do with anything they did or didn’t do. We’re human, and we have feelings. And ideally, the intensity of our feelings will be able to express somewhere that’s not with our child, because that can be a little frightening for the child depending on the age. But if the feelings are leaking out, or if our feelings are not super intense, but we’re having feelings, then it’s great modeling even to communicate with the child what we’re feeling. And that also almost gives them permission to share their feelings with us.

Dr. Kimberly Hubenette: Yeah. So oftentimes, I know people that they just don’t want to express themselves in front of their kid because they’re afraid that the kid’s going to absorb everything, or the opposite. They’re like, the kids are already so stressed out. If they do something or say something, then they don’t want it to be their fault. This is getting pretty deep. So on a lighter note, basically, you do peaceful parenting solutions. Can you explain that a little bit?

Devora Segall: So really, we want inner peace and outer peace. We want to be at peace with ourselves, how we manage our home and our children, and we want to have peace with our children. Peace doesn’t mean the absence of conflict. Peace means positive, gentle interactions.

Dr. Kimberly Hubenette: Having 10 kids, do you think all of your kids will want to have 10 kids too? Or will they only want to have one kid or no kids after being in the family with all of these brothers and sisters?

Devora Segall: I would say some and some, right? I would say most of my children want to have large families.

Dr. Kimberly Hubenette: Oh, yeah. You have adult children, right? What do they range from?

Devora Segall: The oldest is turning 35, actually turn 35. And the youngest is 9.

Dr. Kimberly Hubenette: And so the youngest, since they haven’t seen the oldest one in their household, they’re somewhere else, do they reach out to their older siblings? Or do they not have a connection with them? 

Devora Segall: Oh, they’re connected. But it’s like an older uncle kind of relationship. It’s a different type of dynamic.

Dr. Kimberly Hubenette: And you’ve always wanted to have a big family. Did you come from a big family also? 

Devora Segall: I’m the oldest of 9. 

Dr. Kimberly Hubenette: My family, I’m the oldest of 3. On my mom’s side, she’s the youngest of 14. On my dad’s side, he was the oldest of 4. So not everybody had middle, medium sized families. I don’t have any kids at this point, but I really like to have foreign exchange students come. Last year, I had two foreign exchange students. One from Spain, and one from Italy. And then this year, I’m gonna have one from France. It’s a little something, for me, it’s growing one part of my life of relationships with another, like a child. I’m like the host parent, but I’m not really the parent. Do we interact the same? Probably not. But we are supposed to be the parents in the year that they’re here. And so do you have any tips for somebody that is a parent for a year?

Devora Segall: Wow. I really admire that so much. One of the benefits of raising your own children is that you knew them from when they were very young. What you’re dealing with is almost like what I do with my in-law children. When someone joins the family and they’re a fully grown adult, I care for them so much, and they care for my child, right? How do I figure out what makes them tick? How do I get to know them in a way that I already know about my child? It’s tough. Because hopefully, they were raised well, but I want to have a relationship with them. So how do I do that? You’re asking a really good question. So the first thing is just to be a really good listener. Hear them now. Try to get to know them. Not only asking them questions, just notice. Pay attention.

Dr. Kimberly Hubenette: Yeah, because they’re my kids for a year. They’re gonna be like 17, so that means they’re still not an adult yet. But when they turn 18, they think they’re an adult after that so they have these rules that they have to abide by while they’re here in the US. But this is part of my giving back to society because I don’t get anything out of it, but I get a relationship, and for a forever relationship that’s across the world. It’s a neat feeling to have. I was a mentor in the past for a child that was from 2 years old all the way to age 18. And then after that, after she graduated from high school, then I was empty. Kind of empty again. And now, I have this one coming. Well, I had the other two. And now, I have this new one coming. That’s how I appreciate life in the realm of Live, Love, Survive, Thrive. My podcast, Live, Love, Survive, Thrive!. What do those words mean to you? I ask my audience and my interviewees this question each time.

Devora Segall: Well, to LIVE means to be living a life that’s meaningful. You feel like you’re fulfilling your purpose. To LOVE means to connect. I like to connect to others, and I like to help other people connect to the important people in their lives. And to SURVIVE means that life isn’t always simple. A lot of us have gone through stuff, but we’re survivors. And survivors can become even stronger. Where the bone broke can often be the strongest part of us. But there’s something called Post Traumatic Growth. When there’s been a trauma like you’re describing, I don’t know why you’re taking in these exchange students, but it might be that something difficult that happened in your life that is making you want to do this. So that’s the idea. We can take the difficulties. We can take the lemons and make lemonade. So that’s what I see as survive. And THRIVE is kind of going to the next level. Really putting all of this together so that we can thrive, that we can truly feel that we’re fulfilling our life’s purpose.

Dr. Kimberly Hubenette: So are you in the thrive mode in your life right now?

Devora Segall: I would say, I cycle through all of these. My guess is that we all do.

Dr. Kimberly Hubenette: I always tell people, you’re born, and then you die, and then your life is the journey in between. Everybody’s unique. I always ask my listeners to think about these kinds of things, and write it down if you have something good that comes up in our conversations. But what is a quote that you live by every day? Do you have a special quote?

Devora Segall: When we were talking before you asked me for a quote that I hold of that I believe in, so that’s really what I’m going to give you. I live by it. I’m not sure. Okay, I’m on that level, but it’s what my work is about. I would say what my life is about. So there was this rabbi who said that the furthest distance is the distance between the mind and the heart. So I really feel like all my work is about helping people bridge that distance. When people come to me in therapy, they know what they need to do. They know what they need to be thinking, but they’re not right. So in therapy, I try to help them to bridge that gap. As a coach as well, people know how they want to show up as a parent, and they’re not. So the work is learning the skills, practicing, and getting the support we need to move from knowing to actually doing.

Dr. Kimberly Hubenette: So would you say there’s a difference in definition between a therapist and a coach? Or are they one in the same?

Devora Segall: So I would say they often interchange, but they’re not the same. There’s many different ways to define therapy, and there’s many different ways to define coaching. Often, therapists do a lot of coaching, which is often I do as well. And often, coaches do a lot of therapy. Again, if they’re well trained enough, they know when something has reached the limit of what they should be treating. But very often, you’re in a session with a client as a coach, and the client will bring in some deep trauma, which really should be worked on with a coach and just a choice, but to work with it, to go there.  I’m trying to keep my coaching more in a group, community setting so I don’t break those boundaries. I’m only licensed to do therapy in my state and in New York, like in two states. If I was working with somebody, I felt they needed therapy, they needed some deeper trauma work, I would refer them to another therapist in their state. The coaching work that I do is very practical. What are the skills I need to learn? And how can I learn them in order to be better in my life?

Dr. Kimberly Hubenette: Yeah. Because it could go deep, and it could go superficial. To me, it seems like you’re doing medium to heavy thoughts because they need that. A lot of people need this work that you do, and it’s very encouraging to find somebody like yourself with 10 kids with the parenting, with the teaching credentials, with the license therapy credentials, and a coach and the author. I mean, you’ve done it all.

Devora Segall: Well, I guess that’s part of my living.

Dr. Kimberly Hubenette: Yeah. Oh, definitely. A lot of times, we are stuck in a situation, and then we try to find somebody, like an accountability person, to help us out. How can people reach you?

Devora Segall: I have my website. They can book a call. It’s at segallcoaching.com. You can book a call, and you could speak for 10-15 minutes. See where you’re holding and what you need, and we can go from there.

Dr. Kimberly Hubenette: Oh, nice. And then you have Facebook and a social media type of thing, Instagram. What other things are you on as far as the platforms?

Devora Segall: On Facebook, okay, it’s called Connected Moms. That’s the name of my Facebook.

Dr. Kimberly Hubenette: Nice. Last thing, do you have a favorite recipe or a food that you like that you want to share with our listeners? Healthy or unhealthy, it doesn’t matter. 

Devora Segall: Well, I don’t know if you guys are into peanut butter, but we have a holiday coming up, and I made these little cakes to get out. They’re called regal chocolate chip peanut butter bars.

Dr. Kimberly Hubenette: Oh, that sounds good. 

Devora Segall: So basically, it’s a basic cake recipe with peanut butter added, and chocolate chip on sips on top that you sort of cut through, making it look like marbling. I could tell you the recipe. I didn’t invent it, but three quarters of a cup of brown sugar, three quarters of a cup white sugar, about half a jar of peanut butter, about three quarters of a cup of oil, about two cups of flour, a teaspoon, and a half of baking powder. You basically mix the flour and the baking powder together. If you’re using regular Skippy peanut butter, you don’t even have to add salt, really. If you’re using brown sugar, you don’t need to add salt. A teaspoon of vanilla or vanilla sugar. You mix it all together, and you pour it in a pan. And you bake it at 350 for about, I would say in the area, obviously, until a toothpick comes out clean. Oh, I forgot the eggs. Start with four eggs. When I cook, I never follow a recipe. I’m giving you the basics. Sometimes, I’ll substitute spelt flour for white flour. I’ll use avocado oil. You could even try substituting peanut butter without sugar, but then maybe I would add a little salt to the recipe. You can play around with it. It’s pretty forgiving. But that’s my recipe. 

Dr. Kimberly Hubenette: When do you put the chocolate chips on top?

Devora Segall: You turn on the oven at 350, you put it in the oven, set the timer for five minutes. Oh, you sprinkle the chocolate chips on top, about half a cup of chocolate chips just enough to cover, and then you stick it in the oven, and it’ll melt after five minutes. You take it out, and you take a knife, and you swirl and cut.

Dr. Kimberly Hubenette: Oh, neat. 

Devora Segall: You put it back in the oven for another 20 minutes or so. A lot longer, a lot shorter.

Dr. Kimberly Hubenette: Wow. I’m gonna try that. That sounds good. I love peanut butter and chocolate. I love Reese’s Peanut Butter Cups. Hey, it has protein. Peanut butter has protein so it might be healthy for you. Who knows? Hey, I have a sweet tooth. I’m a dentist, by the way, by trade. I like a Reese’s Peanut Butter Cup, so that sounds so good. Any last thoughts for the day before we say goodbye?

Devora Segall: We spoke about vulnerabilities before, just know that as a person, a lot of people here are dealing with loss, whether recent or past. Just know that you’re carrying a lot, give yourself grace, and take the time to care for yourself because you deserve it. 

Dr. Kimberly Hubenette: And listeners, hey, this is a very powerful session that we’ve had today. This is Dr. Kimberly Hubenette of Live, Love, Survive, Thrive!, and you are? 

Devora Segall: Devora Segall.

Dr. Kimberly Hubenette: It was so nice seeing you today, and talking with you, and getting to know a little bit more about your phenomenal work. So listeners, please look her up. Get in touch with Devora if you have any parenting issues or want to speak to her about her life. Okay, so have a great day, and I will see you next week. Be well at Live, Love, Survive, Thrive!.  

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