Life can look fine on the outside while something underneath stays unresolved. Anger, numbness, anxiety, and self-sabotaging habits often point to grief we were never taught how to process. This conversation meets that reality without fixing, shaming, or spiritual bypassing.

The Unleashed Heart author, Victoria Volk, shares how unprocessed grief reshaped her identity and eventually led her to build a body-based, evidence-informed approach to healing that moves people from survival into real expansion.

Press play and sit with this conversation, then explore the themes that matter most right now:

• Grief beyond death and why endings linger in the body
• Trauma versus grief and how they interact
• STERBs and the behaviors grief often hides behind
• Rebuilding identity after life breaks open
• What thriving actually looks like after loss
• Living fully while carrying grief, not erasing it

02:13 Victoria’s Grief Journey: Childhood Loss and Trauma

06:39 Childhood Emotional Suppression and Learning to Read the Room 

10:14 Short-Term Coping: Shopping, Alcohol, Doom-Scrolling and More

14:12 Grief Timeline and the Reality of Doing the Hard Work 

20:58 Energy Types Explained: Manifestors, Generators, Projectors, Reflectors

24:31 Grief Myths 

27:26 What is Biofield Tuning and How Distance Energy Healing Works 

31:33 How to Spark the Desire to Heal and Do the Inner Work

35:13 Short-Term vs Deep Work and Being Ready

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📖Live, Love, Survive, Thrive! by Dr. Kimberly Hubenette (COMING SOON)

📖Get Victoria’s Book: The Guided Heart: Moving Through Grief and Finding Spiritual Solace by Victoria Volk

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04:10 “At first, it was I needed to learn this so I can help other people. It was always to help other people, when really the first person I needed to help was myself. And grief recovery was the catapult and the catalyst for opening up my eyes to my own potential.” —Victoria Volk 

06:28 “It has to start with yourself, but people are afraid to really express their true selves.” —Dr. Kimberly Hubenette

09:33 “It can be really depressing to think about the state of things right now, but I do hold out hope that with the breakdown comes the breakthrough.” —Victoria Volk

11:56 “Let’s change the conversation. Let’s talk about grief like we talk about the weather.” —Victoria Volk

14:03 “Moving forward is stepping into fear, being brave and courageous in your decisions.” —Victoria Volk

14:12 “It might be a little tough at first, but it’s gonna be well worth it.” —Dr. Kimberly Hubenette

24:58 “It is okay to feel bad. but how long do you want to feel bad?” —Victoria Volk

31:46 “The more that I have come to know myself, the less I’ve looked to others to tell me who I am. It’s finding wholeness within myself, and that’s only that’s the responsibility of one person— and it’s us.” —Victoria Volk 

36:41 “Energy healing came after the fact. So it’s meeting yourself where you’re at, but then also asking yourself, Is there more?” —Victoria Volk

Victoria Volk is the owner of The Unleashed Heart and an Advanced Certified Grief Recovery Specialist, author, podcaster, and coach. Drawing from her own lived experience of childhood loss, trauma, and decades of unaddressed grief, she helps clients move beyond merely “coping” to truly healing and thriving. Through her work with the Grief Recovery Method, energy healing (including biofield tuning and Reiki), and Human Design, Victoria guides individuals to become emotionally complete with past losses, transform their relationship with pain, and reconnect with their inner wholeness. She is the host of the “Grieving Voices” podcast and the author of The Guided Heart: Moving Through Grief and Finding Spiritual Solace.

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Welcome to the  Live, Love, Survive, Thrive! Podcast that helps you embrace life’s challenges, grow through adversity, and discover your true potential. I’m your host, Dr. Kimberly Hubenette, anti-aging dentist, widow, Author and inspirational Coach. I live by the “Can I” philosophy of constant and never ending improvement, and I’m here to help you do the same. Each week, we’ll dive into real conversations, powerful stories and practical tools to help you heal, grow and thrive. Whether you’re rebuilding after loss or ready to step into a more purposeful life, this space is for you. Let’s grow, evolve and thrive together. 

Dr. Kimberly Hubenette: Welcome back to Live, Love, Survive, Thrive! Show. I’m Dr. Kimberly Hubenette, and today, I have a special guest that I met on the internet, and I loved her information. She is the owner of The Unleashed Heart. She’s an Advanced Certified Grief Recovery Specialist, author and a live coach. She also has a podcast called Grieving Voices. Her name is Victoria Volk. I’d really like to have Victoria introduce herself and tell us a little bit about what she’s doing right now. Welcome, Vicky.

Victoria Volk: Thank you so much for this opportunity. I guess my story starts when I was a child. My father passed away when I was 8. But the year before that, my grandmother had passed away, which was my mother’s mother. And so as you can imagine with grief, it kind of upbids everything in your life. And for my mother who lost her mother and then her husband of 17 years at the time, she was pretty much emotionally checked out after that point, unavailable. I was the youngest of four. There was an age gap between me and my siblings, and so I’ve felt like a lone wolf, really, in my childhood. And that really set the stage for the work I’m doing today. I did have some traumatic experiences that happened in my youth. After I was molested, that really just set me off on a path of self destruction. Really into my 20s, I did enlist in the military and ended up going overseas after I was married at the time. Married my high school friend, actually, which was a really remarkable story how that came up to be because we, neither of us, really saw that coming. We were friends for seven years, and then ended up getting married, and then he was also in the military. He volunteered, and we deployed together. Anyway, we’ve been together for 23 years. 24 something. Feels like a lifetime. But yeah, it’s everything, all my experiences. I have a pretty eclectic background, and I’ve gathered a lot of tools in my toolbox that first and foremost were to help myself, but not at first. 

First, I need to learn this so I can help other people. It was always to help other people, when really the first person I needed to help was myself. And eventually, that clicked, and with grief recovery, which changed my life. Honestly, it really was the catapult and the catalyst for opening up my eyes to my own potential. All of the certifications that I have came after I addressed my grief and anger. I had lots of anger that I had buried really deeply, and confronting all of that definitely is not easy. I can see why people, when they’re walking out the door to put their shoes on, or when they’re sitting down to put their shoes on to walk out the door to some support group or to a new program, or to learn a new tool to help them heal, it’s really easy to take those shoes off and not go because it’s the unexpected. It’s the unknown. And what am I going to feel going through this? What kind of person will I be on the other side of this? Who am I without this pain? Those are big questions I was grappling with. I say Grief Recovery is the gift that keeps on giving. And it really is, because it transformed my parenting. I have an amazing relationship with all three of my kids because I worked on myself, I addressed my demons and worked through my pain so that I no longer project that onto them. I no longer have this need to feel their love, to feel whole. It’s coming from within me, because I needed to find my own wholeness. You’re never going to find it in other people. It has to start with you, and that’s probably the greatest lesson that I’ve gotten out of everything, all the work that I’ve done personally.

Dr. Kimberly Hubenette: So would you say that maybe society plays a role in how we interact with life and with the expectations of society? Maybe, because I feel the same way. I think that it has to start with yourself, but people are afraid to really express them to their true selves. What do you think about that?

Victoria Volk: Yeah. I think that comes from childhood when we don’t feel the support that we need to fully express ourselves as a child. There was no room for my emotions, so that anger was displaced and turned on myself and other people. Truly, I was probably a really difficult person to be around. I hurt my friend. I was a terrible person. Actually, I grew up being like the shoulder everyone else leaned on, and I learned how to emotionally calibrate a room because that’s what I had to do. Growing up, there was a lot of anger and fighting in my home. And because my mother had remarried, and it wasn’t a good marriage, and so many things. I’m a Pisces. I’m this emotional person. I feel deeply empathetic. Empath type of person. I needed a lot of sleep as a child. And I’m going off on this tangent. But the point is that we learn how to cope and how to respond to life by the age of 15. 75% of that is actually by age 3, if you can believe that. Because children are sponges, and they take in all the physical and emotional cues from their environment and the people around them. There was no talk of grief or emotional intelligence in the 70s and 80s, not like today. There’s a lot more resources to help parents today. I do see a pendulum swinging really far to the other side, though, on that. 

And I think there is a balance that needs to be found, but I do feel now, especially as a society and individuals in society, that we are greatly influenced by other people, by social media, by people in our environment. Just take yourself for example, or even myself. If you’re on social media, you’re doing the doom scroll and it’s like, oh, everything’s negative, negative, negative. Or you come across something that really just fires you up like it’s just kind of grits against your own value system, and you can get sucked into that, and looped into that emotional anger, and swept up in that. And then, let’s say you go into a grocery store and the checkout person isn’t friendly to you or says something, and you had just been on social media. You’re coming into the store already riled up in that first interaction, that person’s probably going to receive what you just got riled up about and for no reason. I see that more than anything right now is that we’re getting swept up into these things that are really out of our control. They’re painful. It can be really depressing to think about the state of things right now, but I do hold out hope that with the breakdown comes the breakthrough. I feel like that’s true on an individual level, as much as I feel that’s true on a collective level.

Dr. Kimberly Hubenette: So because you have your coaching and your podcast, and you help people with grief, there’s different kinds of grief, but what is it that keeps somebody from not moving forward? Or what would you say that you can help somebody with to take some action to move forward?

Victoria Volk: Well, I think it’s, first of all, the person needs to ask themselves how they perceive moving forward, because my moving forward might be very different from someone else’s version of moving forward. My version of moving forward is that the pain of the past is no longer dictating my behavior in the present, or my attitude, or how I perceive or see the world, or how I perceive myself or others. And that’s the biggest crux, I think, of grief is that it puts a veil over our face. We don’t see ourselves clearly. We don’t see other people clearly, and so we resort to other behaviors to feel better. We call them short term energy relieving behaviors. Could be shopping, could be gambling, could be relationships, could be alcohol, could be drugs, could be doom scrolling social media, it could be fantasy. It could be a number of things, anything that you resort to feel better. And really, what you’re doing is you’re avoiding, and you’re not sitting in whatever it is you’re feeling you’re trying to avoid. And you do that long and hard enough, and that’s where your energy goes. You can find yourself years later just sitting in the same place, because your past is still dictating your present. And so that’s what I mean about moving forward. Truly moving forward is addressing the pain of the past. It’s becoming emotionally complete with the loss of hopes, dreams and expectations. And anything that you wish would have been different, better or more. We don’t address those things, and we’re not taught how to do that, definitely not as children. And so that’s kind of my mission statement, let’s change the conversation. Let’s talk about grief like we talk about the weather. 

Dr. Kimberly Hubenette: Would you say that sometimes, people trick themselves into believing that they moved forward? How do they really know that they’ve moved forward? If they think that they have, do they feel differently? Or do they know that they’re different? Those kinds of things. And does somebody really know that they’ve moved forward?

Victoria Volk: It’s a great question. I would say it comes with self awareness. So if you don’t have self awareness, you’re not going to recognize it. In order to do that, you need to pause. You need to sit with yourself. And what I didn’t do for so many years, 30 plus years, is I didn’t ask myself better questions. Who am I without this pain? Who could I be without this pain? And it hinders our potential. It stunts us. It stunts our growth when we don’t make our healing a priority. And when I say healing, it’s not like I went through Grief Recovery. Now, I no longer have grief. Or now, I no longer miss my dad, or I no longer reminisce about what maybe could have been. That’s grief. This is the thing, we’re always going to have it. I’ve grown up with it, but it’s grown up with me. I’ve evolved with it. I’ve allowed myself to evolve. And I think that’s where people who have not moved forward can ask themselves, have I been growing? Have I been evolving? I guarantee that grief is growing on you, but you have a choice, and that’s the thing. So many grievers feel like they don’t have a choice, but you do, and you just need that self awareness to, what do I want out of life? Ask yourself the better questions, what do I want out of life? Is this how I want my days to be? Would my loved one want me to be living like this? Feeling like this. So moving forward is stepping into fear. It really is stepping into fear, being brave and courageous in your decisions.

Dr. Kimberly Hubenette: It might be a little tough at first, but it’s gonna be well worth it.

Victoria Volk: It is. And everybody has their own timeline. I’m not saying that you got to do this in 30 days. Or, hey, I’ve got a 12 week program that can really help you move forward, but you got to be ready. It took me 30 years to get to that point, unfortunately, that’s why I can say. It doesn’t have to take 30 years. It can be three months out from your loss, and you can choose differently. You can choose differently. You can sit with it. Here’s the thing too, what I see in the grief space often, and I see a capitalizing on the pain. People capitalize on other people’s pain. And I think reaffirming, here’s the thing, when I was really in it, right? It’s affirming when someone says to you, hey, look, I’m there too. I don’t want to get out of bed. I’ve gone days without showering. You feel like a wreck. You feel like a train wreck. And someone like me where I’m at now would really probably rub me the wrong way. Don’t tell me that I can see the light at the end of the tunnel. Don’t tell me that I can feel better. Don’t tell me that my life can exponentially explode with joy, passion and purpose because I’m in it. I’m not showered for three days. But here’s the thing, there has to come a point, I think, when we have to ask ourselves, is this serving me? 

I’m of the belief that the more that we are living into our potential and transforming and transmuting our grief, it raises the vibration of the world. When we have people expressing their gifts, when we have people sharing their stories, it lifts. It’s like rising tides lift all boats. Is that how it goes? Something like that, that expression, a rising tide lifts all boats. It’s not a Pollyanna attitude. It’s hard work. It’s not looking for constant affirmation that where you are right now is okay. But then ask yourself, but is it okay with me? And that’s why I think so many grievers aren’t asking themselves like, yes, I’m where I’m at in my life right now. I’m struggling, and that’s okay. But is it okay with me? Am I okay with this? I got to the point where I was just sick of my own shit. I’m like, I’m sick of my own shit. I need to figure my shit out. I need to figure myself out. Who am I without this past? I don’t see enough people in the group space talking about that.

Dr. Kimberly Hubenette: So has your relationship gotten better with your husband and your kids because they didn’t know you before you didn’t have this, and they’ve seen you transform. But do they feel a difference in you? Do they even know the difference? Because they knew you from the beginning as this person with grief.

Victoria Volk: Well, when my kids were little, I was the raging mom. Maybe I’m hard on myself. I think I am. I am naturally a little more critical of myself, but that’s also softened a lot because of the personal work I’ve done. I wouldn’t want to be the same person. That’s why I want to get across here too. It’s like, I don’t want to be the same person. I want to continue evolving and growing. That’s really hard to do when you’re stuck in the past and people might say too, the past is the past. I’ve dealt with it, really. If you’re doing this, like stuffing it down, stuffing it down with food, alcohol, booze, gambling, all those things I just shared, relationships, relationship to relationship, to relationship, you’re not really what are you addressing.

Dr. Kimberly Hubenette: Because you were telling me earlier that now, you’re doing this new certification. We wanted, really, to have you talk to me and the audience about what you’re doing now. What certification are you doing now? And how it’s affecting your life and your clients lives?

Victoria Volk: Yeah. I’m in a human design certification to be a Certified Human Design Reader. And human design is based on your birth details, place, time, date of birth. It uses astrology, I Ching, something else really not the best at explaining the nuts and bolts of it all. I can tell you for sure that it has been really freeing and kind of the permission slip to live into my design, how I am designed to be? What are my gifts? What are my shadows? It highlighted the juicy and the not so juicy parts of my design. One thing that I learned was that I’m a 4/6. That’s a profile. 4/6 is the profile line. There’s two profile lines, 4/6, emotional manifester. So emotional meaning. That’s my authority. I have these waves, the highs and the lows. Yes, I definitely do. And then on top of that, I’m a Pisces. So I’ve heard more times than I can count on being too sensitive. I’m too emotional. All my life, I’ve heard that. That is my gift. My sensitivity is my gift. It’s my superpower. And that’s in learning that I was a manifester type. There’s manifesting generators which make up manifesting generators and gender generators make up most of the population. 50, I think it’s like 70 some percent, 72% of the population, they’re like the worker bees of the world. They’re like the people that get stuff done. They have access to this consistent energy. 

And then there’s manifestors like me, which make up 9% of the population or so. And then reflectors make up 3% ish. And then projectors make up 3%, and then reflectors make up 1%. What makes a person a reflector is that all of their energy centers are open, so they are literal sponges in the world. And I have so much sympathy and empathy for reflectors. But learning as a manifester, what’s very different about us is that we don’t have this consistent energy. The typical 9-5 does not work for us, and so we are operating in a world as non sacral as I said the manifesting generators. And generators are like the working bees. They’re the sacrals. And then we have manifesters, projectors and reflectors, which are non sacrals. And so much of the world is operating as a sacral society. It’s the grind, it’s getting her done. But yet, that’s not how we are built as a non sacral. So learning has been really freeing because there’s a lot of pressure in the world and in society to produce. It really helped me. It opened up my eyes to how I’m designed. And really, anger is more not a self theme for a manifester, which is ironic because I have such a deeply rooted relationship with anger. And so learning that alone has been eye opening. So yeah, it’s been amazing to explore. It’s another tool out there to help you to get to know yourself.

Dr. Kimberly Hubenette: That is wonderful. I think I did something like that about 10 years ago, learning about myself. I have to go back and look at my papers. I used to live in San Diego, and I had a friend that did this mapping thing so I took one of her courses. I have to read, look at all of my information to really see what I am. I would like to know of all the tools that you use and utilize. What are the two main things that you do to help those people that are in that grief? Can you walk me through what you would do to help somebody start not feeling they’re overwhelmed, and how to get them really wanting to learn or have to want to learn about themselves first before they come to see you?

Victoria Volk: I think it’s a peeling of the layers. And as you do the work of working through grief, just looking at your energetics of your body, your life and all of that like you peel back the onion, it’s learning. You learn as you go. I’m still learning. I love learning, and I’ll never stop. Love to learn, loving to learn, and learning about myself. And so again, the tool that I am champion for is the degree recovery method. It’s evidence based. Kent University did a study on it. Like I said, it changed my life. It’s changed thousands and thousands of lives that’s been around for over 40 years. And it was started by a veteran who was on the brink of suicide. He asked himself a better question, and that question was, what do I wish would have been there for me? And that set him on a path to developing the Grief Recovery Institute and the Grief Recovery Method. And there’s a book, The Grief Recovery Method handbook, which I highly recommend as a place to start to learn about grief. I think we don’t even understand grief as a society. We’re not taught about grief. There are myths of grief. Time heals. That’s a myth. Keep busy. That’s what a lot of people do. Keep busy just to distract themselves. Don’t feel bad. It’s not okay to feel bad. It is okay to feel bad. How long do you want to feel bad? So let’s transmute this. Let’s work with this. Let’s evolve with this. Let’s grow with this. That’s kind of my whole mantra when it comes to grief. But the Grief Recovery Method bar none. I can meet people where they’re at too, and that’s where the energy healing biofield tuning. I’ve had clients that come to me for energy healing and realize it’s grief is the root of their energetics, and their body, and things that are manifesting physically, and have worked with me in Grief Recovery as a result. And there, I have tons of free resources. I do meditations. Have those on my website to meet people where they’re at. Lots of free ebooks on my website as well to meet people where they’re at. But my greatest joy is walking with people through the deep emotional pain, that’s my gift, I would say. 

Dr. Kimberly Hubenette: So with your coaching, you said that you have a 12 week program. You also said that it’s online, or they have to come to you, assuming it’s online. 

Victoria Volk: I can do it in person too, but it’s online.

Dr. Kimberly Hubenette: So is it better to see you in person or online is okay too?

Victoria Volk: I can do groups. I can do an online group, and that’s a little bit of a different dynamic. And I keep it very small. I keep those very small. I have done them in person, and I love that too. But yeah, that’s able to be done as a group as well, online. 

Dr. Kimberly Hubenette: You showed me your little tuning fork. What is that? 

Victoria Volk: So this is 432 hertz. We have unweighted tuning forks, and then we have weighted tuning forks. So the weight, you don’t hear the sound. These are primarily, I use these quite a bit on the body and even distance. I only work remotely now doing energy healing. I just go remote now because I’m very rural too. So for people to come to me was really difficult, too. I do biofield tuning. 

Dr. Kimberly Hubenette: How do you do that online? I’m way over here, and you’re way over there.

Victoria Volk: So I connect with people usually live on Google meet, typically, is what I use. And I do the session live. It’s basically like I tap into your energy. Your hologram is on my table. So biofield tuning is a little different from Reiki. I’m a Reiki Master as well, and Reiki more so addresses the energy that’s in your body. Whereas biofield tuning, if you think of an apple and you cut it in half, that toroidal shape is, it’s the energy that extends five to six feet out. So we work on a timeline of gestation out here, and the closer you get to the person’s body is the present day. And so we work in a timeline, right? Some incredible things have come up in people’s timelines.

Dr. Kimberly Hubenette: Where do you tap if the person’s not there?

Victoria Volk: I have a puck that I use to strike the fork, yeah. Or I use my palm, my hand, and no puck. Pucks need a Canadian Puck because not all pucks are created equal. It can seem a little woo-woo to people, but we don’t know how cell phones really work. Do we? How can we communicate? I’m here and you’re there, right? How do we explain that? It’s frequency, it’s all it is. It is frequency, everything is energy.

Dr. Kimberly Hubenette: Do you work with your own family? Or is it just people that you meet?

Victoria Volk: That’s a great question. I have worked with my children. My daughters will ask for it, but I do find it difficult to work on my husband so I prefer other people, other practitioners. Sometimes when you’re that close, it’s hard to separate like you’re, I’m so intertwined with my husband’s energy. He’s actually a 4/6 emotional manifester as well. So we are very similar in a lot of ways. My joke is that I married the male version of myself. I do find it more difficult to work on him. I prefer not to put it that way.

Dr. Kimberly Hubenette: So because the show is called Live, Love, Survive, Thrive!, can you tell me how to live, love, survive, thrive as defined in your words? How do you live, love, survive, thrive?

Victoria Volk: I don’t feel that I really did that until I address my grief. That’s the first thing that comes to my mind. I do feel like I’m thriving now, but that wasn’t always the case.

Dr. Kimberly Hubenette: You said that you have a mantra and a quote that you live by, can you share that with our people?

Victoria Volk: Well, it’s almost like it’s a reflection of my life, and that’s why I think it resonates so deeply with it. And my favorite all-time quote is by Kristin Sherry who is the founder of YouMap, which I’m a certified YouMap coach, which is all about career and life satisfaction. We use the Gallup strengths. There’s four different little tests that you take, and then that combined makes your YouMap, and it involves your values, it involves your top five strengths and your preferred skills. So anyway, I have a lot of heady stuff for my strengths strategic input, like a lot of head stuff, but she says her quote is, and it’s a mile time favorite. The more you know yourself, the less you look to others to tell you who you are. And that’s been the story of my life. The more that I have come to know myself, the less I’ve looked to others to tell me who I am. It’s finding wholeness within myself, and that’s only the responsibility of one person. And it’s us. We can’t get that from anybody else. You can try to get that from other people, but you’ll be disappointed because expectations are planned disappointments. 

Dr. Kimberly Hubenette: And how can you catapult somebody’s thought process to want to do this? I’m sure they do want to, but they don’t know how so they do look for support from others at first. And then what I’m hearing you say is up to them to decide to really do it, and the resources that you have can help them start doing it. 

Victoria Volk: You got to start somewhere, right? But my whole thing is it doesn’t have to take 30 years. If I would have learned these things, these tools earlier, who knows where I would be right now. But that’s grief too. I can’t wallow in that, but I am very grateful to be where I am today, and it is because of Grief Recovery.

Dr. Kimberly Hubenette: You were telling me that you have an energy healing quiz, or I thought I saw that in your information. But can you tell my listeners how to reach you? And talk about that a little bit.

Victoria Volk: So my website has all my social media links, everything I do, free consultations. theunleashedheart.com is my website. And I do have a free energy healing quiz, energy quiz on there on the energy healing page. I think it’s also on the biofield tuning page and the Reiki page. It should be on the energy healing page, for sure. And then I also have a grief quiz to kind of recognize where you’re at in your grief. And it’s not to label you, but it’s to help you. It mirrors back, possibly like, are you ready for the deep work? Are you more ready to hear other people’s stories and feel seen, and see yourself in other people’s stories? So the premise of that quiz is to kind of gage where you are at in your journey, because it is a journey. Where I’m at and the deep work that I do with people is for everybody. It doesn’t matter what your loss was. Because even though it’s a method, I take the same steps with people regardless of their loss. It’s unique to you because we’re addressing your grief, your stories, your pain. Even though it’s a framework, that’s how it’s customized to every individual. So it is for everybody. But you have to ask yourself, do I want this? Do I want to do grief differently? That’s a program. That’s why I named it. Do grief differently. Do you want to do it differently? Well, then this is for you.

Dr. Kimberly Hubenette: Okay. This has been so eye opening, and I’m sure that many of our listeners really do want to do what you’re doing. There are some that maybe have just started understanding themselves, and then some people that are in the middle of it. Maybe some of you are ready to see and go beyond just scratching the surface. Well, Victoria Volk is an expert at these things. I hope that our listeners will reach out to you. And hopefully, that they will come to find that you are what they’re looking for to help them get to the next level. Do you have any other last comments or information that you want to share with us?

Victoria Volk: So if you want to kind of see my journey after listening to this episode, if you want to hear where I was before Grief Recovery, in my book, The Guided Heart: Moving Through Grief and Finding Spiritual Solace, it’s on Amazon, but there’s a link on my website as well. That’s essentially where I started the tools, the things that I was diving into that I was finding helping me peeling back the layers before I discovered grief recovery. Energy healing wasn’t even a part of that story. Energy healing came after the fact. So it’s meeting yourself where you’re at, but then also asking yourself, is there more? It comes back to that question, who am I without this pain? 

Dr. Kimberly Hubenette: Well, thank you so much for being a part of our Live, Love, Survive, Thrive! Podcast. I’m Dr. Kimberly Hubenette, and I’m Victoria Volk. Thank you for listening, and see you on the next episode of Live, Love, Survive, Thrive!. Bye for now. 

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